If you’ve been in youth ministry long enough, you’ve probably noticed a bit of a gap between youth pastors and kids pastors. It’s not always intentional, but let’s be honest—sometimes we’re so focused on middle school and high school students that we don’t give much thought to the ministry happening just down the hall.

But here’s the thing: kids ministry and youth ministry aren’t competing teams. We’re playing for the same Kingdom. And if we want to do our jobs well, we need to be on the same page. So, here are a few things every kids pastor wishes their youth pastor knew:

1. The Bridge from Kids Ministry to Youth Ministry Matters

You know those sixth graders who show up looking lost and overwhelmed? That transition didn’t start in August—it started years ago. Kids pastors spend years pouring into those students, building relationships with their families, and preparing them for what’s next. When youth pastors partner with kids pastors, the transition is smoother, and students are more likely to stay engaged.

What you can do:

• Show up to a kids ministry event and connect with fifth graders before they move up.
• Collaborate on a transition plan so students don’t feel like they’re starting from scratch.
• Celebrate milestones together (like a “moving up” ceremony).

2. Parents Trust the Kids Pastor—Leverage That

In kids ministry, parents are highly involved. They know the kids pastor well, and that trust doesn’t automatically transfer to the youth pastor. If a kids pastor speaks highly of the youth ministry, parents are more likely to buy in. If there’s no connection, some parents may disengage as their kids grow older.

What you can do:

• Get to know key parents in kids ministry before their students move up.
• Ask the kids pastor to introduce you to families.
• Communicate your ministry vision clearly so parents know what to expect.

3. What You Inherit is What Was Built in Kids Ministry

Those students who show up to youth group ready to lead, serve, and grow in their faith? That didn’t happen overnight. That’s the fruit of years of investment in kids ministry. And the students who struggle with faith, discipline, or engagement? They have years of experiences that shaped them, too.

What you can do:

• Recognize and build on the foundation that’s already been laid.
• Don’t just focus on what’s lacking—celebrate the spiritual growth that’s already happened.
• Be aware of kids who struggled in elementary ministry and look for ways to help them thrive in youth ministry.

4. Kids Pastors Want to Be Respected as Ministry Leaders

Youth pastors sometimes assume that kids ministry is just about crafts and Goldfish crackers. But kids pastors are doing deep discipleship work. They’re not just babysitting—they’re laying the spiritual groundwork that will carry students through their teenage years and beyond.

What you can do:

• Acknowledge the spiritual depth of kids ministry.
• Ask for advice—kids pastors have been working with these students for years.
• Don’t just talk about what you’re doing in youth ministry; take an interest in what’s happening in kids ministry, too.

5. Discipleship Starts Long Before Middle School

Too often, youth pastors act as if middle school is the “real” starting point for faith development. But the reality is that many students decide what they believe about God before they ever step into youth group. Kids pastors are doing the work of discipleship long before youth pastors get a chance.

What you can do:

• Align teaching themes so kids and youth ministries reinforce each other.
• Encourage younger students to serve and lead in kids ministry before they enter youth group.
• Value the work that’s happening in kids ministry, knowing it directly impacts the students you’ll eventually disciple.

Final Thought

Youth pastors, your kids pastor isn’t just a coworker—they’re your biggest ally. When you build a strong partnership, you’re setting students up for long-term spiritual growth. So, take them to coffee, ask them what they wish you knew, and start working together to make that transition the best it can be.

Because at the end of the day, it’s not about youth ministry or kids ministry—it’s about building lifelong disciples.

This month marks six months since stepping into the role of youth pastor at VPYouth at VantagePoint Church. As I sit here and reflect, I realize what a whirlwind it has been—taking over a ministry from a beloved youth pastor who is still on staff, inheriting a volunteer team, and stepping back into the trenches as the solo, only-staff youth pastor leading around 150 students.

And honestly? I’m incredibly thankful for what I get to do.

In the process, our student attendance and volunteer team have nearly doubled. But I’m not sharing that for attention—I’m sharing it as a personal reflection because I believe it’s just as important to recognize what is working as it is to pinpoint what isn’t. If you’re a new youth pastor stepping into a new church, or maybe you’ve been in one place for a while and feel stuck, here are some things our team has focused on in our first 150 days that I believe have made a real impact:

Dialing in Our Service

I won’t lie—when I first got here, I was worried about our midweek service. It lacked key elements, wasn’t very engaging, and students were disruptive. So we got to work. We focused on bringing fun back into the room, reshaping the culture around worship and respect, and fine-tuning our order of service to set students up for success in small groups.

Six months later, our services look completely different. The culture in the room has shifted. Students know what’s expected, small groups are thriving, and there’s an excitement that wasn’t there before. Spiritually? We’re still growing—but we’re getting there.

Focusing on Small Group Leaders

If small group leaders know how to win and feel equipped, everything changes.

When I stepped in, the small group structure wasn’t bad—our leaders just weren’t sure what “success” looked like. My role was to clarify expectations, train them, and help them lead with confidence. We focused on:

• Defining clear “wins” for leaders
• Giving them practical tools for leading students
• Teaching them how to control the room while still fostering real connection

Now? Students aren’t just inviting their friends because service is great—they’re inviting them because small groups feel like real community.

Communicating Well with Parents

If you’ve ever been in the DYM Facebook Group, you’ve seen this question: “How do you communicate with parents?”

I don’t have a revolutionary answer. What we did was add every parent we could to our email list and committed to weekly updates. Each email includes:

• A celebration story of what God is doing
• A recap of the message with small group questions
• A resource (once a month) for parents to use at home
• Upcoming events and key dates

The number of parents who have emailed back saying “Thank you for keeping us in the loop” is crazy. They may not always respond—but they are reading. And that matters.

Being Super Present on the Weekends

Our church doesn’t have dedicated youth services on Sundays because of space limitations. But instead of letting that be a roadblock, I committed to being as present as possible in the church lobby.

Some weekends, I hang out and connect with students and parents. Other weekends, we set up a student table or I help host service, sharing stories of what God is doing in youth. The result? Students who only attended on weekends started showing up on Wednesdays.

Will this still be as effective a year from now? Maybe, maybe not. But as the new guy, being intentional about visibility has made a big difference.

Developing a Strong Leader Culture

When I arrived, almost all our volunteers were young adults. That’s not a bad thing—I love their energy (especially since I, a 38-year-old man, do not have the same level of energy anymore). But I knew we needed leaders of all ages and, more than that, we needed to build a true leadership community—not just people who happened to serve in the same space.

So we focused on:

• Training leaders well so they felt confident in their role
• Creating community within the team—because leaders who know and love each other lead better
• Hosting spaces just for them—so they could encourage and sharpen one another

Now? Our leaders are our biggest recruiters. They’re inviting others because they don’t just love the students—they love being part of this team.

There’s more I could share, and maybe I’ll do a Part 2. But these are the things that have really stood out to me as the “new guy” stepping into an established ministry.

At the end of the day, the goal has been getting healthy. And when a ministry is healthy—it grows.

Would love to hear from others: If you’ve stepped into a new ministry role, what’s helped you build momentum?

You can check out our ministry @vpyouth on IG.

I also co-host the Youth Ministry Hacks Podcast where I dive into this more in detail.